An Apology -- Chapter 10d Mind Control Junk Science There is a Cain and Abel division over the topic of "mind control" or "brainwashing" in regard to new religious movements. Hassan, Singer and Lifton are the Cain side speaking for Satan. other leaders of small religous organizations should not. shootout near (waco) between federal officers and a religious cult headed by them among the branch davidians, you find them http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Publications/UC-Apology/UC-Apology-1
Extractions: Mind Control Junk Science There is a Cain and Abel division over the topic of "mind control" or "brainwashing" in regard to new religious movements. Hassan, Singer and Lifton are the Cain side speaking for Satan. Bierman does a very good job critiquing them by quoting distinguished scholars who refute the paranoid, hysterical and irresponsible junk from "anti-cultists." In fact, the garbage Hassan and company write is called "Junk Science." The result of the Singer and Ross's denunciation of non-conformist small religious organizations is to spread needless fear to the average person. They are evil leaders who cause more harm than good. We are supposed to live by the rule of law. We need good laws and good justice. If any person or group violates a good law, then they should be taken to court, expose their illegal activities and jailed. Criminals and evil organizations like the Mafia should be punished for forcing people to pay them for "protection." If Hassan and crowd can find something illegal about any person or organization, then they should take that person or organization to court. In the case of Sun Myung Moon, they riled up the government to take him to court and they influenced the media to bias people to hate him so the jury and judge sent an innocent man to jail. Carlton Sherwood's book clearly shows the travesty of the legal persecution in that case. Will Hassan acknowledge this? No. They are so filled with hate and prejudice they cannot see the obvious truth that Moon and his church are law-abiding, patriotic and moral people. Hassan and company have go on national tv and whip up people to become emotional over non-conformists. They can't find anything illegal, so they cross a line and harass people who should have the freedom to worship anything from trees or some guy who says he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Hassan and crowd are evil busybodies who hurt people. Maybe there wouldn't have been a Jonestown if people like Congressman Ryan had left them alone. People get scared when the government shows up at their door. It is intellectually sloppy and morally wrong to then condemn practically every small religion there is because one nut case like Jim Jones and his stupid followers flip out.
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Extractions: A GOD FIGHT for all religions AGODFIGHTforallreligions@groups.msn.com Groups Home My Groups Language Help ... Store David Koresh and the Branch Davidians For a overview please read the info located on the following Brief on : David Koresh and the Davidians WEB LINKS Waco the inside story http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/ a Introduction to the Davidians http://www.fountain.btinternet.co.uk/koresh/index.html Branch Davidians at religous tolerance http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_branc.htm Branch Davidian.com http://www.branchdavidian.com/ Gospel.com on Waco http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/b10.html Father of cult member speaks http://www.southbendtribune.com/99/sep/091299/local_ar/223823.htm religous movements - Davidians http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/bran.html Shepherds Rod.org http://www.shepherds-rod.org/ WSWS http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jul2000/waco-j25.shtml web of deciet http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1997/vo13no18/vo13no18_waco.htm Autopsy of victims http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/8/8_aut.html
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Extractions: A GOD FIGHT for all religions agodfightforallreligions@groups.msn.com Groups Home My Groups Language Help ... Store David Koresh and the Branch Davidians For a overview please read the info located on the following Brief on : David Koresh and the Davidians WEB LINKS Waco the inside story http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/ a Introduction to the Davidians http://www.fountain.btinternet.co.uk/koresh/index.html Branch Davidians at religous tolerance http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_branc.htm Branch Davidian.com http://www.branchdavidian.com/ Gospel.com on Waco http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/b10.html Father of cult member speaks http://www.southbendtribune.com/99/sep/091299/local_ar/223823.htm religous movements - Davidians http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/bran.html Shepherds Rod.org http://www.shepherds-rod.org/ WSWS http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jul2000/waco-j25.shtml web of deciet http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1997/vo13no18/vo13no18_waco.htm Autopsy of victims http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/8/8_aut.html
Texas Religous Group In Armed Standoff 70 Miles From Waco! [Free Republic] Disclaimer Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. "Gun siege as liberty cult defies US from (waco), and the memory of the 1993 siege in which 80 branch davidians and their http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ade0d21f6a.htm
Extractions: Posted on 08/30/2000 21:36:34 PDT by Mike from California A BAND of ultra-religious paramilitary zealots have barricaded themselves into a dusty Texas compound with several children and an arsenal of guns, vowing to die before they will surrender to police..... Click here for link to article Here we go again. Posted on 08/30/2000 21:36:34 PDT by Mike from California To: Mike from California A BAND of ultra-religious paramilitary zealots have barricaded themselves into a dusty Texas compound with several children and an arsenal of guns, vowing to die before they will surrender to police. Note BAND in caps ultra-religious paramilitary zealots barricaded themselves Texas compound several children arsenal of guns vowing to die before they will surrender to police this passes for reporting?
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Extractions: By MICHAEL McKENNA A former Australian government worker has won control of the Branch Davidian compound outside Waco, Texas, that was the scene of a 1993 stand-off with US authorities that ended in the deaths of 80 sect members. Melbourne-born Davidian Clive Doyle , a former federal currency printer, learnt several weeks ago he had won the battle for the near desolate property he has lived on since the late 1960s. Several factions within the now dwindling ranks of the sect, once headed by acclaimed "Messiah" David Koresh, had fought for three years through the courts for control of the 180ha property. Mr Doyle, whose daughter died in a fire that broke out after US marshals stormed the compound, said the factions had dropped their suits for the property he had run and paid taxes on since 1994.
Extractions: By TOMMY WITHERSPOON Tribune-Herald staff writer Branch Davidian survivors and victims' families say they are entitled to a new trial of their wrongful-death lawsuit against the U.S. government because U.S. District Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. of Waco has exhibited "deep-seated antagonism" against them. The surviving Branch Davidians and their families claim in a lengthy brief to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that Smith erred by not removing himself as judge over the $675 million lawsuit. A three-member panel of the New Orleans-based federal appellate court is set to hear oral arguments in the case Monday morning.
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Extractions: In consultation with: COMMITTEE FOR WACO JUSTICE, P.O. Box 33037, Washington, D.C. 20033, 202/986-1847 202/797-9877 Please Feel Free to Copy and Distribute! Copying for non-commercial distribution encouraged. The Public Must Know the Truth Justice Must Be Done Past Wacos: Government's "Historic Interest in Breaking Up Armed Groups" BATF and FBI Persecution of Randy Weaver ... Treasury Department and BATF Chains of Command Diagram and Drawing of Mount Carmel Center White House, Justice Department and FBI Chains of Command April 19th Diagram of Tank Damage to Mount Carmel April 19th Infrared Photo of 11:59:16 of Tank Rammings and Collapsed Gymnasium April 19th Infrared Photo of 12:10:40 Fires THE MASSACRE OF THE BRANCH DAVIDIANS A STUDY OF GOVERNMENT VIOLATIONS OF RIGHTS, EXCESSIVE FORCE AND COVER UP THE PUBLIC MUST KNOW THE TRUTH
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Extractions: COMMITTEE FOR WACO JUSTICE, P.O. Box 33037, Washington, D.C. 20033, 202/986-1847 202/797-9877 Please Feel Free to Copy and Distribute! Copying for non-commercial distribution encouraged. Cut into more loadable chunks by F. Clarke-Rowland 1/5/1999 According to the Justice report, "In one of the meetings held in Waco in early April. . . (Assistant U.S. Attorney) LeRoy Jahn raised the possibility of fire at the compound and suggested to the FBI that fire fighting equipment be placed on standby at the scene. . . (Deputy Assistant Director Danny) Coulson explained . . .due to the range of the Branch Davidians' weapons, fire fighting equipment could not be brought into the proximity of the compound. Coulson further explained that structural fires cannot be fought from the outside. The only way a fire could have been fought at the compound would have required fire fighting personnel to enter the compound. That option would have posed an unacceptable risk to the fire fighters." (JDR:302-303) (Again, one wonders why the FBI was concerned about fire fighters and not about the agents seen jumping in and out of tanks on "Waco, the Big Lie.") Janet Reno admits she gave little thought to the possibility of fire. Her worse case scenario "would be an explosion, not a fire. . .She recalls lying awake at night asking herself. `Oh my God, what if he blows the place up?'" (JDR:274) Reno did assert at the April 28, 1993, House Judiciary Committee hearing: "I was concerned about intentional or accidental explosions and ordered that additional resources be provided to ensure that there was an adequate emergency response." During her April 19th press conference, "Ms. Reno said she thought that the fire department had been" given advance notice. However, the Waco fire department said it had not been given advance notice of the assault by Federal agents.
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Extractions: SUNAM Acting Resume In consultation with: COMMITTEE FOR WACO JUSTICE, P.O. Box 33037, Washington, D.C. 20033, 202/986-1847 202/797-9877 Please Feel Free to Copy and Distribute! Copying for non-commercial distribution encouraged. The Public Must Know the Truth Justice Must Be Done Past Wacos: Government's "Historic Interest in Breaking Up Armed Groups" BATF and FBI Persecution of Randy Weaver ... Treasury Department and BATF Chains of Command Diagram and Drawing of Mount Carmel Center White House, Justice Department and FBI Chains of Command April 19th Diagram of Tank Damage to Mount Carmel April 19th Infrared Photo of 11:59:16 of Tank Rammings and Collapsed Gymnasium April 19th Infrared Photo of 12:10:40 Fires THE MASSACRE OF THE BRANCH DAVIDIANS A STUDY OF GOVERNMENT VIOLATIONS OF RIGHTS, EXCESSIVE FORCE AND COVER UP THE PUBLIC MUST KNOW THE TRUTH
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Extractions: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 97 15:54:00 PDT Subject: RE: kuamer speaks ..again Check TooL . Down . Net there is a "biographies" section that has some information about the band members (both past and present). "Crucified by my Ignorance and Martyred by your indifference." - Brian -Original Message- From: tool-list-outgoing-owner-BrianM=humongous.com [SMTP:tool-list-outgoing-owner-BrianM=humongous.com@majordomo.pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 1997 6:42 PM To: tool-list Subject: kuamer speaks ..again i gots another question for ya'll how old is tool? i mean the ages of the band members they look like they in their late 20's just wondering kuamer has spoken From: Urban Donkey Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 19:00:03 -0400 Subject: Re: kuamer speaks ..again Moore, Brian wrote: > Check TooL . Down . Net there is a "biographies" section that has > some information about the band members (both past and present). > "Crucified by my Ignorance and Martyred by your indifference." - > Brian > > that would be: TOOLSHED.DOWN.NET 1 more question.... why do people commonly write "Tool" as "TooL" I think thats about as stupid as those aol names where people write their names like uRbAn DoNkEy oh well - Urban Donkey From: Joshua Barker Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 04:30:45 -0700 Subject: JET!!! Please do something about this crap... the TOOL man (or somebody else who uses his computer) wrote: > > >From bicybrtyme@mci2000.com Wed Aug 13 17:11:04 1997 > - Rest of bullshit snipped- I am so sick of receiving chain mail letters... would you please see that the offending party gets his ass wupped... Thank you CypherM0nk From: Haborym Doppleganger
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Extractions: Every church that is except Roman Catholic. Here are a few paragraphs: "We can now ask how much further we must travel until that blessed day when full unity in faith will be attained and we can celebrate together in peace the Holy Eucharist of the Lord. The greater mutual understanding and the doctrinal convergences already achieved between us, which have resulted in an affective and effective growth of communion, cannot suffice for the conscience of Christians who profess that the Church is one, holy, Catholic and apostolic. The ultimate goal of the ecumenical movement is to re-establish full visible unity among all the baptized" (page 35, last paragraph). "It is already possible to identify the areas in need of fuller study before a true concencus of faith can be achieved: 1) the relationship between sacred scripture, as the highest authority in matters of faith, and Sacred Tradition, as indispensable to the interpretation of the Word of God; 2) the Eucharist, as the Sacrement of the Body and Blood of Christ, an offering of praise to the Father, the sacrificial memorial and Real Presence of Christ and the sanctifying outpouring of the Holy Spirit;
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Extractions: The federal prosecution of eleven Branch Davidians began January 10, 1994 in San Antonio, Texas. The trial was moved to San Antonio from Waco because of the "notoriety" of the case in that town. In his opening statement, lead prosecutor Assistant U.S. Attorney LeRoy Jahn claimed David Koresh expected his disciples to "kill for God." The defense blamed the raid on a faltering government agency that had "declared war on its citizens."[389] Below we review the charges, pretrial motions and jury selection, and the cases the prosecution and defense can be expected to make. Finally, we will briefly describe Branch Davidian law suits against the government. THE CHARGES Between March 30 and July 20, 1993, a series of indictments were returned against several Branch Davidians. On August 6, 1993, the United States Attorney's office in Waco, Texas obtained a "superseding" indictment from a grand jury that combined all previous indictments into one. Charged with conspiracy to murder federal officers were: Paul Fatta, who was in Austin on February 28th; Norman Washington Allison (aka Delroy Nash) and Woodrow "Bob" Kendrick who tried to return to Mount Carmel on February 28th; Brad Branch, Livingston Fagan, Kathryn Schroeder and Kevin Whitecliff who left Mount Carmel during the 51-day siege; and Renos Avraam, Jaime Castillo, Graeme Craddock, Clive Doyle, and Ruth Riddle who survived the April 19th fire. Conviction on conspiracy charges could mean up to life in prison and a $250,000 fine for each defendant.[391]
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Extractions: I had heard about this subject before over the last few years and read a couple of examples, such as the events of the early 1900's where the 3 young girls at Fatima Portugal saw the spinning sun and the Virgin Mary in the sky talking to them. Thousands of people experienced the strange events of rain and sun and people went there faithfully despite great hardship to hopefully experience seeing the Virgin Mary with the girls. Many people may get turned off by what I say next, but keep in mind that technology has reached a point where holograms of vast perspective are now possible. Also, most people have seen extraterrestrials on television and movies are aware for the most part that extraterrestrials exist in some form or other though there is great controversy over whether they can travel millions of miles or travel for light years when people cannot as yet. But those who study the phenomena know that extraterrestrials are inter-dimensional as well and have great technology for mind control as well as the ability to shape-shift, make one think that they are experiencing weird dreams when in fact they are being abducted and examined on the big hospital ships.
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