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  1. Supply and migration of Canadian physicians, 1970-1995: why we should learn to love an immigrant doctor.: An article from: Canadian Journal of Regional Science by Hugh Grant, Ronald Oertel, 1997-03-22
  2. French health-care reform: 30,000 uninsured: France's experience offers a caution to Canadians seeking similar health-care reform.(WORLD): An article from: Catholic New Times by Tom Sandborn, 2006-05-21
  3. Senate Committee study on Canada's health care system.: An article from: Canadian Parliamentary Review by Jeffrey J. MacLeod, Howard Chodos, 2003-03-22
  4. Pay attention to values.(Canadian health care system)(Editorial): An article from: Catholic New Times
  5. Caring for profit: how corporations are taking over Canada's health care system.: An article from: Labour/Le Travail
  6. Etude du systeme de sante canadien par le Comite senatorial.: An article from: Revue parlementaire canadienne by Jeffrey J. MacLeod, Howard Chodos, 2003-03-22

61. Rex Morgan's Prescription? Socialized Medicine In US
socialized medicine in US. Supporters of socialized health care in Canada and theUnited States have a to ask him, Do we want to have a canadian healthcare
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Published on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 in the Rex Morgan's Prescription? Socialized Medicine in US by James Adams Supporters of socialized health care in Canada and the United States have a seemingly unlikely friend in Rex Morgan M.D. , the handsome, deeply decent physician who has been a staple of newspaper comics since 1948. So far there's no record of the Romanow health care commission or the U.S. Secretary of Health having consulted the fictional doctor. Mr. Wilson has been writing Rex Morgan M.D. , a sort of soap opera in comic form, since 1991, having worked as an apprentice under its originator, psychiatrist Nicholas Dallis (now deceased), since 1982. Under Mr. Wilson, Rex Morgan hasn't hesitated to tackle domestic violence, epilepsy, drug abuse, AIDS, organ transplants, asthma and sexual harassment. But in recent months Mr. Wilson has pulled his rock-jawed hero firmly into the far more dicey arena of health policy, even sending him to Washington, D.C., to testify before legislators. The strip's current storyline is dealing with the fallout from the death of Rex Morgan's friend, Dick Coleman, who lost his job after being diagnosed with colon cancer. Losing the job resulted in the loss of his family's health coverage and the threatened foreclosure on the mortgage on the Colemans' home.

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Long before President Bill Clinton ever appointed Hillary Clinton to head up his Health Care Reform effort, much discussion and debate had already occurred about the issue of adopting so-called socialized medicine or government-controlled health care. In this 6 page research paper, the writer presents arguments in favor of socialized medicine detailing all of the health care and economic problems that it would solve. The relevant case of Canada (her strengths and weaknesses) is used heavily to support points made. Bibliography lists 5 sources.
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A 4 page research paper on the effects of seceding territories from a country. Detailed background information on Tibet and Quebec are used to compare and contrast the differences between the Democratic and Communist reponses. Bibliography listing five sources is included.

63. Media Watch -- 06/01/1989 -- Janet Cooke Award: NBC News:  Saluting Socialized
NBC NEWS SALUTING socialized medicine. reporter Fred Briggs, is a form of socializedhealth care Briggs compares American health care with the canadian system.
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From the June 1989 MediaWatch Janet Cooke Award NBC NEWS: SALUTING SOCIALIZED MEDICINE To help attract viewers to third-ranked NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw , news executives exploited concerns about health care to boost their ratings. Beginning May 1, NBC News aired "America's Vital Signs," an "unprecedented month-long report on the nation's health" which would probe "life-and-death questions." The series did not help NBC Nightly News' ratings, but it did give some insight into how the network would solve what it called "America's severely strained health-care system." The solution, according to reporter Fred Briggs, is a form of socialized health care similar to Canada's. Briggs' May 5 Nightly News report earns the June Janet Cooke Award. Even before the Briggs report, it was obvious where NBC News was heading. In a pre-report "teaser," anchor Tom Brokaw stated: "And on 'Vital Signs' tonight, Fred Briggs compares American health care with the Canadian system. The differences just across the border are dramatic, cradle to grave." Introducing the report, Brokaw showed no less enthusiasm: "Throughout this first week on 'America's Vital Signs,' we have seen the way that high medical costs are putting tremendous strain on American patients and American hospitals alike. One factor: insurance. Thirty-seven million Americans have no insurance at all. Many health experts believe that some sort of universal health insurance is the answer. The problem: how to pay for it. Well, you don't have to look far to see one system that seems to work well. NBC's Fred Briggs tonight on the Canadian way."

64. Capitalism Magazine Is A Right To Prescription Drugs Good
Dr. Hugh Scully, president of the canadian Medical Association, said Canada is Let'srepeal all aspects of socialized medicine, including the idea of a right
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=645

65. U-TURN - Medical Socialism
socialized medicine has convinced me that if the Clinton plan were adopted, it wouldbe a disaster for all American citizens as well as thousands of canadian
http://www.u-turn.net/2-2/social.html
Medical Socialism
By Blair McHenry
    Proverbs 11:26 says that "People curse the man who hoards grain but blessings crown him who is willing to sell." This passage points out that to create an artificial shortage in the face of genuine human need is a detestable practice. Socialism - which has historically presented itself as the political philosophy of compassion - has always resulted in reduced and poorer services, artificial shortages and rationing. This is true regardless of where it has been tried or what aspect of life it has been applied to; socialism has never raised the standard of living and level of care for the less fortunate. Socialized medical care is no exception. Wherever it has been introduced, including in our own country, the result has been declining standards and the rationing of medical care. I have listened with great concern as President Clinton has attempted to convince the American public that the solution to the "health care crisis" is to adopt a Canadian-style form of socialized medical coverage. My first-hand experience with socialized medicine has convinced me that if the Clinton plan were adopted, it would be a disaster for all American citizens as well as thousands of Canadian citizens. At the beginning of November 1993, my Canadian doctor diagnosed that I had a major inguinal hernia that would require surgery. Upon his diagnosis, my doctor put me immediately on the surgery wait list. After waiting over four months, I had still not heard any word as to an expected surgery date. Because I was in pain and discomfort every day and had physically deteriorated to such an extent that some people barely recognized me, I sought out medical care at a hospital in Seattle, Washington. When the Seattle doctor saw my hernia he was aghast that I had waited for over four and a half months for surgery. He then asked me what day I would like to have my surgery!

66. Transcribed Notes Of Dr. Bob Evans From The PNHP Spring Conference 2000
consumer coop. Is the canadian system socialized medicine? public paymentfor private services! Not socialized medicine, but socialized insurance.
http://restech.wustl.edu/~sforum/BobEvansPNHPSpring00.htm
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University of British Columbia
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"Myth & Reality in the Canadian Health Care System"
Is the Canadian system in crisis? -mainly a question of public perception Ways to measure whether a system is *really* in crisis:
Canadians fleeing to the U.S. for health care. This is a perception fueled by the pharmaceutal industry and other heavily-financed industries with something at stake. In truth, the number of Canadians who flee the health care system of Canada is about 0.1%! Whether drugs in U.S. are cheaper or not. Universal health care Canadian-style does not include drugs anyway, so Canadians have no real reason to 'escape' the system for U.S. drugs. Actually, they're more expensive in the U.S. (hence a bus load of American elderly patients went to Canada to buy drugs. This attracted much publicity) What about health care quality?
Canada is ranked #2, U.S. is ranked #25. The people who use the system in Canada are satisfied. What the media is focusing on (to create the perceived crisis): -crowding in emergency wards - data is inconclusive here -waiting lines - inconclusive again Why costs can be cheaper in a universal health care system: universal health care provides for collective bargaining, which function in much the same way as a

67. Delusions Of Adequacy Columns - Dateline--Canada
Like socialized medicine being the extension of this help, the federal governmentwas an to make sure everyone had what they needed and that canadian oil would
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By Anthony Easton Note : This is a recurring column covering events in Canada, giving readers from other countries a taste of what living in another big chunk of North America is like. We hope to develop new columns from around the world. If you live in a country besides the United States and would like to write a general interest monthly column about life in your country, please contact doa@adequacy.net. The Cost of Health Care Ten months ago, the former premier of Saskatchewan, Roy Romanow, was asked to go across the country and consult with Canadians to determine how best to amend health care. Since this trip was commissioned by a government looking for a legacy project and given to a known leftist who founded socialized medicine in this province, the results, when they came this month, were as expected. He reminded us that not-for-profit healthcare means not for profit, told us that to make money and to provide services were often conflicted, and, though he did not use this word, the value of this system was a utilitarian one - one that provides the most services for the most people and therefore the greatest good.

68. Our Times - October/November 2002 Table Of Contents
year the doctors went out on strike against Canada's first socialized medicine plan. BY BARB BYERS A CALL TO CARE The canadian Health Coalition and canadian
http://www.ourtimes.ca/contents/02_oct_nov_toc.html
Women, including this laundry worker, represent more than 80 per cent of the health care workforce in Canada. Cover Story:
Workers Who Care
A Health Care Workers' Roundtable
By Eleanor Schmidt
Pauline Worsfold
Cathy MacKinnon
Sonia Reynolds
Vickie Jo Morris
Nancy McMurphy
and Valerie Bird COVER PHOTOGRAPH:
Vincenzo Pietropaolo October / November 2002 - CONTENTS DEPARTMENTS
LETTERS RED FLAGS RED SKIN Cedar, to Native people, is the giver of life. My grandma's life was not easy. A story illustration. BY TANIA WILLARD HAVE YOUR SAY HEALTH IN DANIEL'S HARBOUR I believe the biggest health issue for young people is accessibility and confidentiality concerning birth control and STD testing. BY JENNIFER PAYNE SICKLE CELL DISEASE Nobody knows how many Canadians suffer from Sickle Cell Disease, because no one in Canada's health care system keeps track. BY ANNE CLARKE THE BEAUTY OF A WOMEN'S CENTRE Women's centres have a broad mandate to help women deal with whatever issues they're facing.

69. Term-Papers.us - Socialized Medicine
costs, and proof of this is shown in the amount of canadian health care Socializedmedicine is such a failure, even government officials admit to it by their
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70. Singpay1
billing. 10. canadian physicians employ 0.7 clerical/administrativestaff for billing. 11. In spending. II. socialized medicine. 1
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I. Advantages of Single-Payer System
according to Physicians for a National Health Program 1. A single-payer system would save on bureaucracy and investor
profits, making more funds available for health care. Administrative Costs 2. 30 percent of all health care spending in the United States is
spent on administration. 3. Under the Canadian single-payer system, administrative spending
is only 11 percent of health care costs. 4. The reason the U.S. overhead and administration costs are so high
is because we have 1500 insurance companies, multiple billing procedures, and the costs of advertising, lobbying, and exorbitant executive salaries. 5. Private insurers take about 13 percent of premium dollars for overhead and profit. 6. Big managed care plans take about 30 percent of your premiums for overhead and profit. 7. Overhead consumes less than 2 percent of funds in the fee-for- service Medicare program and less than 1 percent in Canada's program.

71. Socialized Medicine - Trash Talk
The most serious problem with socialized medicine, though, is the effect it hason Do you suppose canadian doctors will sue for reparations 200 years hence?
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Member posted 10-08-2002 12:36 PM As suggested, a new thread on an old topic. I'll kick it off in the way I always do - with a story. My "headache in Wyoming" was featured in a previous thread. I'll try a different one. Couple years ago, I got into a wreck with a critter, and took a good smack in the ribs. Happens. My ribs were sore. I took some Motrins, and life was good. Three days later, on a Sunday night, the two that were fractured, let go. Hurt like hell. mrs llamas packed me in the truck and drove me - very slowly - to St Joseph's in Ann Arbor. We arrived there about 10 at night, and the weekend evening rush of a community hospital in a college town was in full swing. I was seen in less than thirty minutes, thirty minutes later, I was sliding to and fro in the MRI machine.

72. AllPolitics - TIME This Week: Oct. 21, 1996
The difference between HMOs and socialized medicine, the Bill Clinton of this Assumingthat the President wins another term, the canadian numbers could figure
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Calvin Trillin On Clinton's Canadian Win
By Calvin Trillin (TIME, October 21) Bill Clinton is leading Bob Dole in Canada by about 50 points. I would have mentioned that soonerI read about it in the Washington Post a month agobut I've had difficulty trying to figure out its significance. Columnists are supposed to offer analysis, not just raw statistics and undigested facts. Everybody knows that. I feel particularly responsible for analysis when the statistics and facts concern Canada; I have always prided myself on staying in touch with our neighbors to the north. Not to boast, but several years ago I set the American-columnist record for consecutive columns mentioning Canada (two). If Clinton had blowout numbers in Canada, it was up to me to say what they meant. As I prepared for that task, my wife brought up the possibility that they didn't mean anything. "Canadians can't vote in American elections," she said. Yes, there's that. Just because Canadians can't vote, though, doesn't mean that their poll results are not to be analyzed. In fact, given the reverse English now common to political spin, I can imagine the ineligibility of Canadians as being used to make a point. For instance, some Dole campaign honcho like Nelson Warfield, who has often seen turning points that are not immediately apparent to others, might answer a question about the Canadian survey results by saying, "Canadians can't vote. So Senator Dole emerged from those surveys completely unscathed in terms of the Electoral College. So I think the 'downward spiral' that some in the press like to talk about has been checked. In that sense this can be seen as an indication that the Dole campaign is beginning to take hold."

73. Health Care News: Failings Of Canadian Health Care Hit Close To Home (March 2002
also served on the board of directors for the canadian Mounted Police. Yet even withall those credentials, he became a victim of socialized medicine, like so
http://www.heartland.org/archives/health/mar02/canada.htm

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Hit Close to Home
by Jack Koenig Thirty years ago I was dating a young doctor who was experiencing severe back pain. At the time, the "Papaya Treatment" was in vogue, and the place to get it done was St. James Hospital in Toronto, Canada. Even with her credentials, my doctor friend had to wait seven months for an appointment. That wasn't because she was from the States, or because of high demand for the treatment ... and it certainly wasn't because of a lack of money on her part. It was simply due to the lack of medical personnel and facilities in Canada. That was then, and this is now. Times have changed dramatically over that 30-year span, but not for the better: My younger brother Dan, a Canadian citizen, recently passed away from cancer. The cause of his death wasn't cancer per se, but rather the deteriorated state of the socialized Canadian health care system. Approximately three years ago, Dan experienced severe stomach pains. After waiting four months to see his assigned physician, he was put in a queue for a barium study of his gastrointestinal track. Six months later, the study revealed Dan had an "unusual" growth in his stomach. He was placed in another queue to receive an MRI. Eight months later, the MRI revealed tumors spreading throughout his system. Dan was scheduled for immediate surgery. Three months later the surgery revealed massive tumors spreading throughout his system. The physicians simply "sewed him up" and declared it would be a waste of resources to proceed further.

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The Ongoing Fight for Independence
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75. PSRview - Fall 1998
socialized medicine works with varying success in some countries course, we have plentyof socialized services here canadian patients, for example, can go to any
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76. The Harbinger. To Arms For Universal Health Care.
of us night and day, in commercials, in anticanadian propaganda disguised answerof those who paid for their lies was socialized medicine! , harrumphed very
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by Townsend Walker, Sr. There seems to be no limit to the American genius for inventing and propagating lies designed to prejudice us against Canada’s single-payer system of health care. You may remember the Harry and Louise television commercials propagandizing us against the Canadian system of health care a few years ago. That was when surveys were showing, as I recall, that fully two thirds of us here in the States would have settled happily for the Canadian’s way of doing health care enough of us to rattle the purveyors of health care, especially the American Medical Association, insurance and pharmaceutical companies, hospital association, etc. They didn’t tell us the issue was never about quality at all, in the way they were thinking about quality but simply about making quality care available . They didn’t tell us it was never a matter of fixing, but of nixing a system defective in conception and dead at birth. And if you corrected their presentation of the problem, the stock answer of those who paid for their lies was "Socialized medicine!", harrumphed very loudly and dripping with disdain for the poor wretch who would set the record straight. It brings back memories, doesn’t it? And you know, they’re still doing it. And have you noticed how seldom it is these days that anyone outside the health care reform movement dares mention Canada’s single payer as a rational system to the god-awful mess our profit-driven system has produced 45 million people without a health-care policy. And how many more who pay to be insured but really aren’t. Even that which they think they have is being taken away. And numberless others so beaten down and deprived and, yes, made invisible in their isolation, that no one really knows the full measure of their suffering.

77. Krymkowski For Congress Press Releases
solve our health care problems. This cure would be worse than thedisease. The canadian system of socialized medicine is failing.
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Website: ww.gmavt.net/~dkrym/congress.htm UVM Professor to Run Against Bernie Sanders Daniel H. Krymkowski, a professor at the University of Vermont in Burlington, will run for Congress on the Vermont Libertarian Party ticket against incumbent Bernie Sanders. Professor Krymkowski is a mathematical sociologist with expertise in the study of social problems. "Although Congressman Sanders has been somewhat effective in drawing attention to certain social problems, such as the high cost of drugs for the elderly, his solutions just won't work," Krymkowski said Thursday when announcing his candidacy. "Sanders' solutions are all wrong. His old fashioned quick fixes of throwing money at problems, and his call for more and bigger government just will just exacerbate the problems." Professor Krymkowski cites the issue of health care. "Congressman Sanders favors a system of socialized medicine, very similar to that in Canada, in order to "solve" our health care problems. This "cure" would be worse than the disease. The Canadian system of socialized medicine is failing. "More and more Canadian patients needing life saving treatment are forced to come to the United States, because the Canadian system can no longer afford to provide it. Canadian doctors are heading south and medical innovation is seriously underfunded. This is the system that Congressman Sanders demands we bring to Vermont.

78. Ohio Roundtable Online Library -  With Medical Needs Follow Doctors South
Dr. Mackillop, a determined advocate for canadianstyle socialized medicine,pointed out that the problem was not only a shortage of treatment centers
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, March 5, 1999 VANCOUVER, British Columbia - Last month the Ontario government announced that it was entering into a contract with private U.S. health care providers to deliver essential cancer treatments to Canadians. Under the terms of the agreement, Ontario will spend a total of $20.1 million to buy radiation therapy for patients who would otherwise have to face unacceptable waits for treatment. U.S. suppliers were said to be competing aggressively, even cutting their costs to attract the business. Well, how come the Canadian system, long the health-care lodestone for political wannabes, is relying on the greedy, private, for-profit U.S. health care system? Is this a leading indicator that the Canadian system is approaching some sort of crisis? In other provinces, like British Columbia, it was the provincial government itself which initiated the purchases of services. Initially, as in Ontario, it was for cardiac-bypass surgeries that the government went shopping. For the past decade, the most frequent treatment purchased by the government of British Columbia has been radiation treatment for prostate cancer. Wait times became so lengthy that patients in one city actually formed a Society for those Awaiting Therapy for Prostate Cancer. The government responded by purchasing treatment in the small border town of Bellingham, Wash. In some cases the providers are former Canadian doctors who are not permitted by law to sell such services to Canadians within Canada.

79. Opinions
a universal human right see also socialized medicine undermines choice discussingthe merits of socialized health care My sister and I are canadian, and this
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Access to basic health care is a universal human right
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By Mike Buma
STAFF WRITER My sister and I are Canadian, and this was our first direct experience with the American health care system. While I have always been an opponent of privatized health care, this experience was something of an eye-opener and left me quite disturbed. I asked the desk attendant what would have happened if my sister had not had that benefit. The answer was simple: she would have been turned away, and denied the medical attention her ankle needed. The Canadian health care system is funded by the Canadian government, both federally and provincially. All my sister would have to do is show her Health Card (a photo identification issued to every Canadian citizen) and she would have received treatment. I was shocked and somewhat offended at the inhumane economic nature of the private American system. Human health is not a commodity to be bought and sold. While the question of economics and financing enters the health care equation inevitably at some point, the fact remains that access to necessary health care is a natural right of all human beings, not simply a right of those rich enough to afford health insurance plans. Many defenders of the American private health care system acknowledge the desirability of universal access to health care and services of a public system, but accuse the Canadian system of being costly and inefficient. These accusations are incorrect and unfounded.

80. World's Shortest Canadian Article On Health
is prima facie absurd to think that we should let the canadian and our last that,I suppose, is by far the major contribution of socialized medicine to public
http://www.adlib.ca/bulletin/articles/Health_Jan.htm
The Right [that is, the only rational) Way to "Run" a Medical System No one has yet suggested, in this country, trying to nationalize the food industry, and the results of attempting to do so in those unfortunate countries which have tried it surely constitute a complete refutation of any idea of doing so. Food is a lot more essential to life than medical services, but somehow the "front-line" nations of the world have managed to convince themselves that nationalization to some degree, at least, is the way to go in medicine, even though the tragic consequences of the same kind of program in the food business speak very loudly for themselves. Well, I beg to differ with the virtually 100% of contemporary academics, politicians, and pundits who spend so much time trying to keep the current medical system from foundering (even more than it already has). The correct thing to do with the Canadian, or any other top-down medical "system" is to junk it. People who oppose this have the idea that many people "can't afford" medical assistance, AND that this fact is a reason for resorting to government to provide. I deny both.

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